went through all of the minor security features, even turned them off. After the W10 reinstall i made sure they were off, Defender and virus protection and firewalls, all are currently inactive 100% I am not saying its the modpack, not yet. I decided on installing a second copy of WoT and put the modpak there and see, that will conclusively establish if there ever was a modpack issue. I ddi post the original message in case anyone had similar issues or knew of any